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Vettne
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Posted: 28/04/2010
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No I´ve just bought it so it´s more of an ensurance value, but if I would sell it I would do it in England, cause I guess the market is bigger there. I was hoping though it was around 250, but you live and learn  |
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Adamscollectables
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Posted: 28/04/2010
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Well you always have to add more to an insurance value as it would be difficult to find something almost identical. It's not unrealistic that it sell for £250. It's just above what I would expect. Good luck should you ever wish to sell it!
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silvertt
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Posted: 28/04/2010
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Hi, I mentioned, in my first reply, that were your Major Ashley to have been involved in some important events/battles interest in your piece may increase. You mention his involvement with Isandlwana. That was the battle, in 1879 and a disaster for the British forces, which precipitated the much publicised Battle of Rorke's Drift (film - ZULU) later the same day. Were you to find Maj Ashley involved in some significant way then again interest may increase. When I have acquired pieces with some organisational connection I have found that the library/archive/museum associated with the organisation, in your case the Royal Engineers, might be able to shed more light on Maj Ashley and may even be prepared to buy the piece from you should it be of significance to them. I must confess I found the research very interesting and rewarding regardless of the commercial aspects. Research is one of the really interesting aspects of silver collecting.
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Vettne
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Posted: 29/04/2010
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Tony,
The history and research around this goblet has been far the most interesting about it.
I have spent hours and hours trying to find out information about Maj Anstey. On my way I have leraned more about brittish war history then ever before
And by "mistake" I found his name on www.thepeerage.com so I could follow his blood line on to today. I even found a picture of him
Also I found a little about this brown down riflemeeting but all the research feels like it becomes harder doing it from Sweden 
I´ll try the RE and se if they can help me out with some information. Do you know where I can start my search?
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silvertt
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Posted: 29/04/2010
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Hi, all I can suggest is the RE museum in Gillingham, Kent at http://www.remuseum.org.uk/
They should be a useful first step. Hope it proves interesting and also, ideally, useful.
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Lorraine
Joined: 26 Apr 2010
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Location: London, UK
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Posted: 29/04/2010
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Hello
If I may chip in - they do say there is a web forum for everything and maybe there will be some people here who could help with your research http://1879zuluwar.talk-forums.com/forum.htm. It seems it is a discussion and reference forum.
Would love to know what you find out about your chap
Good hunting
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Vettne
Joined: 24 Jan 2010
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I Have been to that forum and found out this.
Thomas Henry Anstey
He served with Newdigate's division in the advance from Koppie Allein, and was present at the Battle of Ulundi. Subsequently made a triangulation survey of the route taken by the division from Landman's Drift to Entonjaneni. On his return to Maritzburg he was ordered to survey in detail the Battle-Field of Isandhlwana and the ground adjacent thereto.
Date of Birth:- 23rd September 1841
First Appointment :- Lieutenant Royal Engineers 25th June 1862
Captain Royal Engineers 12th August 1875
Major Royal Engineers 25th June 1882
South African War:- 1879 - Zulu Campaign - Battle of Ulundi. Medal with Clasp.
Source '1884 Army List' (p 298, 783 & 1208)
Lieutenant Colonel - 11th June 1889
Army Rank: Colonel 6th January 1894
War Service - South Africa 1879. Retired 1896.
Also about Browndown rifle meeting
BROWNDOWN RIFLE MEETING.
HC Deb 15 June 1893 vol 13 c1050 1050
ADMIRAL FIELD (Sussex, Eastbourne)
I beg to ask the Secretary of State for War whether it is true, as reported, that the War Office authorities have refused to allow service ammunition to be issued free for the usual annual naval and military prize competition at Browndown, held under the patronage of the Naval Commander-in-Chief and the General commanding the Southern District; whether it is a fact that for many years past ammunition has always been granted as an encouragement to both Services to acquire proficiency in the art of shooting at these annual prize meetings; and whether, seeing that the officers mainly provide the prizes, he will direct that the necessary ammunition be supplied in the interest of the Public Service?
THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR WAR (Mr. CAMPBELL-BANNERMAN,) Stirling, &c.
I am informed that ammunition was refused for the Browndown Rifle Meeting this year because a large excess of ammunition issued for this purpose in previous years was struck off at the request of the General Officer commanding the district, on the ground that these meetings would not be held in future, the organisation under which they had been held having been broken up, and there being no person left in the district who could be held responsible. Of course, I can only speak with regard to the Army.
In the same forum is also a picture of him and a picture of his daughter |
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Vettne
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