Hi, I’m struggling to figure out these 2 pieces that have been in the family for decades! On closer inspection they seem to be unrelated and possibly from different eras and obviously different makers? A hint at value would also be useful as well.
Miles apart, indeed!
The first image shows the hallmarks for Sheffield, 1906:

The maker is Atkin Brothers:
Your second closeup shows the hallmarks for London, 1789:

Maker, Thomas Wallis II:
Value is always tricky, but start by weighing them, multiply by .925 (because sterling isn’t pure silver), then multiply by the current spot price of silver (changes hourly, so just do a quick search). That’s the value of the precious metal content - a scrap dealer would give you about a 30% haircut off that.
Would they be worth more than “melt” to a collector? They’re not part of a set, so they’d be worth more only if they’re by a specific maker, or of a specific pattern. I’m not a “flatware person,” so I couldn’t say. The older piece would be more likely to be worth a premium - past the Victorian era, most silver doesn’t bring “collector money.”
They both need a gentle polishing with something made specifically for silver - don’t tackle them with the mag wheel cleaner. ![]()
Another amusing tidbit: looking at the “fitted” case, it’s clear that the original occupant of the right-hand position was longer than the spoon that’s in there now. My guess is that the case is contemporaneous with the 1906 fork, but the 1906 spoon has been replaced with a 1789 spoon! Usually, it’s the other way 'round. ![]()
Thanks Jeff for ALL that information! Extremely informative!!
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Hi Andy:
No size or weight proffered so value is impossible to calculate.
Both are suffering from generation of careful polishing. so my guess based on a seven inch size is about two troy oz. of sterling and then use Jeff’s formula and you’d get 60% of what’s left.
Back in the day if the newborn didn’t arrive with the metaphysical silver spoon in his mouth, the godparents or someone currying favour, gave him one and a fork to go with it which fork would provide him with his first weapon to protect whatever the young squire felt like protecting.
These were packaged up in leatherette silk-lined boxes and offered for sale at 150% of the unboxed value for the pair.
Generally the favoured infant got a new set but, if this isn’t a replacement spoon, this one only rated implements someone had been chewing on and polishing for a hundred years or more in the matter of the spoon.
Today the spoon is called “Antique” or “Georgian”. Then it was just old and “Georgian” was still a term of derision usually reserved for architecture, but furniture and cutlery had yet to shed the same opprobrium.
CRWW



