Please help with identifying these marks

Hello. I have 2 utensils with these hallmarks on them. A capital L, Initials PJ, and 2 differents profiles of a man- one with a 2 and the other with a 5 and a 3 on it. I believe these utensils to be from Paris around the early 1900s… the profiles of the men (Raphael or socrates?) but the numbers are different from what I have found in the silvercollection.it, Any and all input or referrals to resources are appreciated. Thank you!

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silvercollection.it tells me that these are French hallmarks 1819-1838. The head of Socrates with number 2 denotes non-Paris 800 standard silver. The oval with head of Hercules and the numbers 5 and 3 show the location. Département 53 is Mayenne (and presumably also was Mayenne during the above time span). I have been unable to find an identification of the maker, PJ.

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Thank you for taking the time to help me. I will investigate further. Is there a resource you could refer me to?

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French Hallmarks Illustrated 1798/1972 - Online Encyclopedia of Silver Marks, Hallmarks & Makers’ Marks

Top 250 - Utilisez les filtres pour plus de résultats - Page 1 - Liste des poinçons d’or et d’agent des orfèvres français du XVIIIe siècle

Hallmarks of French silver

FRENCH SILVER MARKS - LES POINCONS DE L’ARGENT FRANÇAIS: PH-PZ

https://www.louiseantiquites.com/orfevres-orfevre-poincon-poincons/

I spent several hours searching yesterday, using various combinations of initials - to no avail.

http://biarritzantiquites.free.fr/portehuilierfin18�meargentPMvieillard.htm

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I appreciate you taking the time to research and offer up some resources. Great info, thanks!

Any chance you know what the L represents? Would it be the initial of the original owner?

We can’t always answer every question, but we always strive to provide the most reliable answer possible. We strive to provide guidance on how to conduct your own research. At this stage, I can only wish you good luck…

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