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British...from London I believe. Anyone recognize the Maker?


#1

One is sterling, I just can’t place the maker. But it has the leopard face w/ crown and lion passant.

The other is from a bottle. I can’t find anything on it and fair it might just be plated.

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#2

Hi there,
I date this London piece to 1817/18 given the ‘b’, crowned leopard and duty mark. The only maker I can find who just about fits the period is William Hall whose mark was registered in 1795. Hope this helps. Can’t help with the other marks.
Regards,
Tony


#3

I believe that it is more likely to be William Hunter (designated by Grimwade as William Hunter II). Hunter entered a mark of this form in March 1798 and a similar mark in September 1824, so we may assume that he was working in 1817. He continued working until at least 1842.

Can’t help with the other one though.


#4

The item with these marks has just appeared on eBay. It is a photograph frame which looks remarkably modern. I have to conclude that the “hallmark” is a forgery, or at the least a pseudo-hallmark. I know I can say this in retrospect, but I nearly suggested that the marks didn’t look right in my first post - should have had the courage of my convictions!

Not sure if I should post a link to the auction, but anyone familiar with eBay can search for “picture frame” “london 1816”.


#5

i dont believe the first piece is forgery. if someone can help prove it, i would appreciate it. does anyone have any info on the second piece?


#6

Sorry, “forgery” was a bit strong. Let’s just say it’s trying to look like something that is isn’t.