Hello
May i ask for your help to identify the hallmarks on this bangle please.
Thank you
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First of all nice clear pictures of the possibly Dutch marks. It shows they are stamped or punched rather than cast.
And is the reddish tinge reflecting off the metal in your photos wear through to copper or a reflection of something the camera has picked up?
CRWW
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The lion passant with a Roman II below it indicates that it’s .835 silver (so there’s no possibility of copper “showing through” - this is silver, not plate). The Minerva head appears to have a K on it, which would identify the assay city as Den Bosch. The final lowercase n is the date letter for 1973.
I can’t find the HPA maker’s mark, however.
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“K” on the Minerva helmet show the item was assayed in Den Bosch’s, Hertogenbosch which closed 1986
The Lion facing backwards over a Roman 2 indicates .835 silver
And the date letter backwards N is 1973
I cannot identify the maker.
But that does seem to answer my earlier question about reddish glow.
It’s a brutalist .835 silver bracelet or bangle assay in Holland in 1973. by a maker whose initials I think start with HPA and I cannot find to suit the date.
CRWW
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Sorry Jeff I think I just duplicated your effort.
There are two HPA makers but both earlier. The third possibility is this is a variation on the HH mark which is what an earlier posting on this site suggests and I was trying to either confirm or eliminate.
Ah the Seventies and our bangle bracelets
CRWW
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Yes, I was about to reply, “Where have I heard this before?” 
ETA: Look on the bright side. At least we didn’t come up with different answers. That tends to get ugly. 
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Hello
Thank you very much for such professional answers. I bought this bangle from my friend who used to work with reclaimed silver in Netherlands.At the time she sold me the bracelet she couldn’t tell exactly what these stamps are.
Would you have any idea of the value of this bracelet? It weights 82 grams.
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You mean like “Rockets Red Glare” (Glow) nasty in your national anthem? I will keep that in mind. I think that was Fort Sumpter, one of the few battles the Americans ever actually won in their revolution before the Brits decided the entire effort was too much and got really whipped at the Siege of Yorkton.
And I have a question which in your new mantle of Dutch Silver Expert you can probably answer. Why did the Dutch decide in 1973 to use a backwards N or Cyrillic Y instead of the standard N they had stuck with up until then? I was looking for a lazy Z again influenced by US popular culture.
CRWW
I think Yulia is asking you, Jeff so I won’t point out the online silver calculators that take a spot price and multiply it by .835 and then multiply that by the number of troy oz or grams to give you a gross melt value, 60% of which a smelter might actually pay you.
Nor will I refer anyone to the four similar bangles listed for sale or sold in on line auctions which auctions usually net the consignor about 55% of price realized.
What I think I might point out, was I answering the question, is given the change in fashion from the Days of Aquarius, is 60% of melt might actually be quite a satisfactory bird in the proverbial hand.
Reducing all that to retail math about $US220 given the right buyer staggers by the shop window and the glow (glare) captures her eye and her boyfriend is of a mind to satiate at least that desire.
CRWW
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Recreational drug use.
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Indeed and Y not. Calvin came up with Y fronts the same year.
CRWW
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