Help to Identify German Silver Makers Mark

Hello all, please help me identify this silver mark. It is on the silver rim of a beautiful cut glass ashtray. It is preceeded by the German Crescent and Crown and 835. But its the symbol that follows that I have researched extensively and just can’t find. It is either the letters A above a V with a bird type head between the letters or its a broken diamond shape with a bird-type head inside facing to the left. I’d be so grateful for any help and thank everyone in advance.


The model of this ashtray is often found and its creator is:
Binder Wilhelm - Schwäbisch Gmünd established 1869
Silverware maker / Silberwarenfabrik

Thank you so much for your help.

The bird’s head resembles a dove, which resembles a signature:
Pasch & Co - Solingen
cutlery maker / versilbertes besteck


Another one:

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