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Please help, cannot find this marking anywhere

I have found most silver markings over the years with no trouble… however this making on a pair of beautiful decanters I cannot find… German… Russian I’m all over?? Aid anyone could help that would be great… I’ll attach a picture of each bellow. What I see on my end is a B&Z stamped in a box a silver marking another b in a shield, 800, what looks to be a crown & a hook. Would love to know this B&Z

I believe them to be early 1870s

The sickle is one of the marks of J D Schleissner & Söhne, a Hanau company. See here and here.