And I don’t care about all the minerals, silver, gold… I have a wonderful wife, a daughter, and I know how to enjoy life despite all the bastards. I focus on spirituality, not fleeting matter.
I’ve outgrown bragging, I prefer to shine with my intellect.
You can have mountains of gold and still remain poor inside.
Yep, I was right, you are definitely on the wrong forum.
CRWW
We work very hard at cultural conglomeration. We are after all a country which started out British and French and managed to settle differences between two nations which has been warring in Europe for a thousand year Somebody said to me we are a company– the Hudson Bay Company which became a country.
And bland is the goal. We have no aspirations to the Confucian curse “May you live in interesting times”.
Priceless.
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Hello Bart,
I’m glad you withdrew your comments. For me, they were out of line.Think it was the right decision. Good on ya to do that.
Obviously there is history here and I don’t know any of it. But reading the comments between you and a few others it seems to me you are both “talking past each other.”
This is both a message board issue along with a cultural one.
I hope everyone chills. Lot’s to learn in here.
Michael
Man, this isn’t bragging. These are inconvenient facts. I’m asking you politely—get off my back.
Thank U, Mike! I don’t know if your wise message will reach everyone I know, but it will definitely reach me. Thank you again for your wisdom and understanding. Stay healthy!
I’m not sure what nationality has to do with research on silver. Nor where the idea that there is a competition about anything. The information is stellar, the humor fun and the learning tantamount.
Lets all pull up our big Boy/Girl panties share have fun and learn.
A whole series of offensive posts have been removed, and are no longer visible.
Auctioneer has a 27% surcharge and if this is in Ontario, 13% hst added as well.
Susan 
40% mark up, welcome to Canada!
“979” WOW! You have a big heart. You have given a lot of love. More than you have received. What you give returns multiplied Bart! Somewhere, somehow. Susan
I see the Auction house has decided to remove the 1824 attribution. It is in fact a lower case “l” and the sponsor mark is of William Abdy Sr, for 1796.
The last Sugar bowl of his was also sold in Toronto by Waddingtons for C$750 in 2019
Phil confirms date.
Christopher Wilson
Guildhall Antiques
Toronto.
This comparable item, out of the Van Hall, Victoria BC collection was some 51 grams lighter and 13 years newer. Van Hall Bros were the rather famous Dutch family that facilitated many escaping Holland and Nazi persecution by underwriting their passage using silver and other assets as collateral.
“The Resistance Banker” (Dutch title: Bankier van het verzet) is available on Netflix in Canada.The film is a Dutch historical drama based on the true story of Walraven and Gijs van Hall, who used their positions as bankers to create an underground bank to fund the Dutch resistance against the Nazi occupation during World War II.
CRWW
Are you talking about the one at AH Wilkens. This is how I see it.
**Date:** London, **1806–07** (date letter “l”).
Maker: William Abdy II (WA) is the likeliest
The other sugar bowl at Waddingtons you mentioned has a crest of some sort. I’m not sure how to value that but perhaps that becomes quite subjective in value? Personally, I have no clue.
I will let you and Phil of www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk sort that out between you. I must confess I agree with him it is the earlier date and the senior Abdy, No pointelle between the initials and the L is lower case.
The van Hall collection went very well. This one may not go quite as briskly although at the older date, and a weight of 23% more and silver increased from. $17.00 in 2019 to double that now, it should go much higher.
CRWW
As to value: Here is another same dated bowl by Lambe:
I usually take ebay asks and divide them by two. They have become essentially retailers not auctioneers
Incidently the date letter is again the smaller L
And even that is often optimistic. If you can find sold lots, of course, that tells the real story. I’ve also seen “buy it now” prices that are very, shall we say, ambitious, attached to things that have been on eBay for years. Some sellers never capitulate. 
Michael, the London date letter for 1806 is L (upper case). The date letter in question is lower case (as you indicated above) and there is a crowned leopard’s head town mark meaning prior to 1821. Although the crown cannot be seen there is plenty of room for it; the uncrowned leopard’s head in 1826 filled the whole punch shape. So 1786 it must be. This also means that it must be William Abdy senior, who died in 1790, at which time William Abdy junior registered his first mark.