What hallmarks are these, please?

What hallmarks are these, please? I confess I don’t think I’ve ever seen them before. Thank you.

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What’s inside the box?

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This is a “flat fifty” table cigarette box made in the late 1920s and it might contain a partition and it is probably gilt inside.

But opening it isn’t going to help us any more than it did Pandora. (lovers of Greek myth may recall the god Zeus was ticked off with Titan Prometheus over giving humans fire and presented him with the first curious women and her with a box, actually a jar, never to be opened.

We all know how that worked out

There is, apropos nothing to do with either Pandora or Prometheus, a P in the shield. That and the .925 might indicate something American. But it’s too blatant for the US by the 20th century. And it’s not made in any country which valued its relationship with then still moderately powerful Britain. So something out of Shanghai with its love/hate of the Brits back then?

The annoying thing is I’ve see the marks before or think I have but …

CRWW

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I bought the box at an auction, but I don’t have it yet. I believe it will arrive this week, so I will look for more markings. Thank you.

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Question, does anyone know if a specific type of wood was used to line these boxes so as not to taint the cigarettes or contents in any way :red_question_mark: :thinking:

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I believe that cedar wood is the favoured type but I don’t know whether it is for protective measures or some other reason.

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I was informed many moons ago that the wood liners in some items was to deter the likes of weavels/insects !!!. How far that is true I don’t know !!! :thinking:

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Now you mentioned it was Cedar wood I tapped into Google and this came up :wink:

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English hanau. :rofl:

APUNZONEMISTO

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Word to the wise: don’t be dumb like me and be careful to just use the rub off paste if/when you’re cleaning it. I have an Aristocrat plated one that I cleaned with cleaner that you rinse off with water, and the water got inside the box and warped the cedar strips. Doh!

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925 is for Sterling Silver, but you knew that I think. Sorry cannot help with the rest.

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Schleissner & Sohne is probably the main producer of Hanau silver. During the 19th Century Hanau became famous for its silversmith workshops producing excellent copies of silver in historical and contemporary styles.

Johann Daniel Schleissner, son of a goldsmith in Augsburg, moved to Hanau in 1816 and opened his own company. His son Daniel Philipp August took over the business. Under Daniel the company specialized in decorative pieces in the antique styles and gained a large popularity.

To respond to the growing demand he begun copying antique and contemporary silver objects in the Renaissance, Baroque or Rococo styles and marking them to resemble the original.

What had started as a small family business, soon became a large factory: by 1848 the company’s time clock was counting 1,000 employees.

I have no idea if these marks are stamped out by one of those 1,000 erstwhile employees but since this is exactly the sort of stuff that factory turned out and because it has a high percent of the total coming out of that mark-challenged city is his, it’s a reasonable bet.

But we would need catalogues or workbooks or day sheets and even then,since the marks are random and meaningless, who knows.

CRWW

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