Information please old fork

[Kas]

Hi, please could you look at these marks on old fork, is this of any value cleared out old parent cupboards. Many thanks Kas.

[Jools]

[Bartholomew]

Deykin & Harrison (William R. Deykin and Walter A. Harrison).

Unusual marks on silver plated Ladle

Hi, can anyone help me identified those unusual marks. Tryed looking on the internet whit no luck. Can you also tell me how much is it worth? Any help would be great. Thank you. [ladle.JPG]

Deykin & Sons - Deykin & Harrison (Ltd)

[Guildhall]

This is a silver plated pickle fork with mother-of-pearl handle. It is part of a “Venetian Silver” pattern manufactured by Deykins, hence the man standing in a gondola punting.

The five discernible marks are a fleur de lys, the gondola, an italised D an ampersand and something that is probably an S for Sons but later could have been an H for Harrison.

There are a lot of these pickle forks dating late Victorian to Edwardian in ETSY and they range in price from $75 with a sterling silver collar to about $25 if plain plate which I think this probably is.

I note an earlier discussion in this forum about a boat man which while accurate, does not explain the high prow and pole.

The other siver forum describes this mark as “the most confusing ever” mostly because their subscribers thought it might be Canadian. But even the most daring of Esquimalt or Inuit boat men in our Arctic found little use for a pole in an ocean deep enough to house most of the Chinese and Russian submarine navy.

Kudoes to Bart for tracing the boat mark back into Forum history.

Again, and I’m sorry to keep harping on about this, but we lack a simple boolean Index search capability on this forum so our faithful clients can find previous mention of boats with ease.

Failure to do it will mean AI will put us out of business.

CRWW

[Bartholomew]

Hallmark Puzzle - Prince of Wales feathers/Fleur de lys + "D&H" +gondola possibly

Your jeweller friend is correct about hallmarks. However, many people incorrectly call every mark on metal a hallmark. The key point about a hallmark is that it is applied by an independent body which has tested that the precious metal content is as claimed. It therefore follows that electroplate, which has no silver content apart from a microscopically thin surface layer, cannot be hallmarked; any such marks on electroplate are applied by the manufacturers themselves. A very good site for elec…

Silver marking can't identify

Hi, Can anyone help please I have a bread fork [20191001_105207] and don’t know the Mark’s anyone know them. Thanks jono

RE: Possible I’d of markings on tongs

[13aa5913031647e6448b487372e8453fdb2451ae] [3605DEYKINBIS] Most of British electroplaters used a letter code to identify the quality of their “Plated” wares. The best quality was “A1” or “AI”, lower level was “A”, next level was “B”, followed by level “C”, and the lowest level was “D”. Deykin & Sons in addition to the traditional method based on letters of the alphabet (A, B and C).

[JeffTucker]

@Guildhall

Again, and I’m sorry to keep harping on about this, but we lack a simple boolean Index search capability on this forum so our faithful clients can find previous mention of boats with ease.

The Discourse software that powers this forum doesn’t have a boolean search capability. Numerous users have requested it over the last decade, but the developers have never taken them up on it.

Replacing the forum software with something from another vendor would be a fairly substantial and expensive undertaking.

[Guildhall]

Thanks for the courtesy of your swift response to the 'plaint.

As you will be aware what might have been true a few short years ago no longer remains so.

Today you either lead the pack or become its next meal.

CRWW

[JeffTucker]

I had to do some quick experimenting and then some online hunting about the software. Transitioning to a new platform has always been laborious - accounts have to be reconstituted somehow, content has to be exported from one and imported to the other (and that’s often very messy), and so on.

Having said that, I develop web software as a retirement hobby, and it’s becoming very clear that AI is on the brink of being able to replace most of what I do. A few months ago I fed it a problem that I knew I could solve, but only at the expense of a lot of coding time, and I was blown away by the response from ChatGPT. It didn’t just modify the example code that I was trying to adapt. It completely rewrote it, and in exactly the fashion I would have. The result was more modular and much more amenable to future tweaking. What would have taken me a couple of hours was plunked into my lap in a few seconds.

At least for now, AI doesn’t seem to possess much creativity - it doesn’t come up with totally new ideas. Then again, that’s gradually drifting away from me, as well. But it is certainly adept at some types of technical chores. Replacing Discourse with, say, phpBB (which does offer boolean searches) might be a doddle.